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Joined: 10/16/2001
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:54:00 AM
 
Ояма ты думаешь я не точно выразился. Народ с одной стороны ругает нас с другой пытается понять, то заходит то выходит. Разве это не confused and irritated ?
Joined: 9/25/2002
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:13:00 AM
 
Гамлет, обьясни, почему когда начинаешь читать твои произведения, на пятой строчке нападает зевота? Я тебя не собираюсь обижать. Но здесь уже было сказано кем-то, что всё что ты пишешь, уже было сказано и ничего нового в этом нет, от того и скучно.
Обрати внимание, что в топик никто /*кроме 5 человек*/ не пишет. Не от того ли, что никто не читает его? А если и читают, то твои слова не задевают ничего в душе и не хочется говорить в ответ.
Тебе не обидно, что ты стараешься в пустую. Может изменить стиль? Может сказать что-то действительно новое?
Подумай. Ждёмс твоих деиствительно новых статей
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:29:00 AM
 
"Bitiye raskrivayetsa v dvoystvennostyakh, a tolko v nikh ono stanovitsa konkretnim, no istochnikom tragichnosti sluzhit lish nesovershenstvo cheloveka - neumeniye sopodchinit' protivorechiya v garmonicheskiye edinstva. Tolko do tekh por, poka bushuyut strasti, t.e. poka chelovek razdirayetsa nesgarmonirovannimi binerami, suschestvuyet i tragichnost zhizni. Poetomu put' spaseniya i evolutsii zakluchayetsa v poraboschenii neurovnoveshennikh strastey i dostizheniy cherez spokoystviye dukha. Etot pokoy- ne unichtozheniye vsego zhivogo v pustote bezmolvnogo mraka, no blagostonoe sozertsaniye bur' i smen zhizni s vershin raskrivshegosya v cheloveke bessmertnogo dukha....

Torzhestvo dukha vlechet za soboy ne podavleniye protivopolozhnostey, ne vzaimnoye ikh pogasheniye i ne unichtozheniye pitayuschego zhizn' zakona dvoystvennosti, a ikh garmonicheskoye sodruzhestvo. Osvobozhdaya ot disgarmonii, istinnaya zhizn est instinnaya konkretnost' Boga, Ego izvechnoye obnaruzheniye. Garmonizatsiya binerov est' ne odna iz chastnikh form praskritiya Pervosili, no eyo glubinnoye kachestvo, apofeoz Eyo nadmirnoy Prirodi. Esli besporyadochnoye vlecheniye nesopodchinennikh polusov vilivayetsa v myatuschiy vikhr strastey, to v ikh organicheskom vnedgrenii i nasischenii drug drugom, v ikh sliyanii v vissheye zhivoye edinstvo prazvertivayetsa tayna Lubvi. Poetomu Lubov v svoyey vselenskoy idee est' estestvenniy zhivoy simvol Bozhestva i entlekhiya evolutsii kosmosa..."

Dalee interesnno:
Za tridzat vekov do evangelskogo "Bog lubbI est" Krishna provozglasil etu doktrinu i, kak Edinorodniy Sin, mog skazat i o Sebe - "Ya est' lubov chisteyshaya vselennoy". Razlichiye missiy Krishni i Khrista proistekayet iz razlichiya narodov i epokh. Kazhdiy iz Nikh Svoyey Lichnostyu zamknul dialeticheskiy protses, no eto zamikaniye proteklo po protivopolozhnim napravleniyam. Khristos uvenchal soboy voskhodyaschiye stremleniye Elladi, vossoedinil myatuschiysya v zemnikh skorbyakh chelovecheskiy dukh s ego nebesnim otechestvom. Poznaniye konkretnogo mira bilo ispolneno, i ostavalos' tolko vdokhnut' v dushu voskodyaschego reroya Dukh Otsa. Krishna takzhe prishel na rubezhe vremen, no pered Nim ludi tak bili pogloscheni stremleniyem k nebu, chto razuchilis ponimat smisl i tsennost zhizni. Svoim moguchim dukhom On vernul ludey zemle, raskril im glaza na neobkhodimost ispolneniya zadach eyo zhizni pri svete gornego. ...

V oboikh sluchayakh chelovechestvo okazalos nizhe predstavshikh pered nim zadach. Golgofa i pole Kurukshetri bili ispitaniyami chelovechestva, i v oboikh sluchayakh ono okazalos' nesposobnim ego perenesti. Drevniy posvyatitelniy zakon, chto "vsyakiy otkrivayuschiy taynu tem samim eyo zakrivayet", obnaruzhilsya v oboikh sluchayakh odinakovo vo vsey svoyey yzhasayuschey deystvitelnosti"......


Thus, Hamlet what you are saying applies as I said to the kingdom of animals and humans of today...Until humans will learn to harmonize the reality of both worlds and understand that God is Oneness experiencing itself through itself in Many we will have wars.

"...Po obschemu osnovnomu zakonu bitiya vse eti otvlecheniya vsegda voznikayut antinomicheskimi parami; odnovremenno s etim poyavlayutsa i sootvetstvuyuschiye vidi strastey. Takim obrozom, evolutsiya soznaniya vlechet za soboy razvitiye v nem vnutrennikh antinomiy i svoystvennikh im strastey. Kazhdaya strast' kak takovaya suzhestvuyet lish do tekh por, poka polusi sootvetstvuyuschey antinomii ne sopodchineni drug drugu i ne sopryazheni v garmoniruyuschem edinstve. Kogda zhe eto svershitsa, strast' suschestvenno pererozhdayetsa, v korne vidoizmenayet svoyu prirodu; iz neyo ischezayet element stradaniya i vmesto porivistikh voln poluchayetsa spokoyniy garmonicheskiy tok. Itak, strasti razvivayutsa s evolutsiyey cheloveka lish do nekotorogo predela, posle chego, parallelno s garmonizatsiyey antinomiy, ikh chislo, kak takovikh, vnov' postepenno niskhodit na net. Razum
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:44:00 AM
 
Eto uzhe izdevatel'stvo.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:14:00 AM
 
Hamlet,
ty gonish :"WE WERE INTENTIONALLY CREATED WITH ABILITY TO DO EVIL AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY

Ah-Ah, WRONG!
Let me put it quite simply : We, after creation or during evolution, have gained ability to live that made us able, for any reasons in order to survive, to create and perfect a system in which we do "evil" and "good" things for our indivdual benefits. After that we perceive ourselves as something that has broader definitions such as gender, race, cultural background, social status. The rest is a conflict of people between each other to re-affirm various and dissimilar principles, system of values and sets of rules on life. That creates contradictions paving road for ëvil and good things to happen as repercussions of preludes of conflicts.







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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:29:00 AM
 
Snegurotchka,

Don't pay attention to insipid remarks of pathetic imbeciles that this forum is full of. I agree with your opinion to a big extent and definitely am interested in geopoliticial issues since most of it is a direct influence on everyday life of our civilization and society.
Keep up a good work and study hard while having fun ;p
Peace out.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:45:00 AM
 
Регулярные (3-4 раза в неделю) занятия сексом резко снижают вероятность сердечных приступов у мужчин. К тому же, как считают медики, регулярные физические упражнения - ваш ключ к долголетию.

Во время секса происходит мощный выброс эндорфина - "гормона радости", что снижает болевой порог. У мужчин, помимо этого, происходит активная выработка тестостерона - мужского полового гормона, что способствует укреплению костной ткани.

Секс поможет вам похудеть. У "среднестатистической" женщины (65 кг) есть выбор: сыграть партию в теннис или заняться сексом - по количеству сгоревших калорий, эти занятия равноценны.

Ваш регулярный секс осчастливит даже... вашего босса (не в том смысле, в каком вы подумали). Просто сексуально активные люди гораздо реже болеют, а, стало быть, реже пропускают работу.

Регулярный секс благотворно скажется на формах вашего тела (особенно на мышцах брюшного пресса и ягодичных мышцах).

Что еще? У женщин он сглаживает синдромы ПМС.

Помимо этого, у женщин активно вырабатывается женский половой гормон - эстроген, что способствует снижению снижению уровня холестерола.

Секс снимает стресс. Это уже почти аксиома, не требующая доказательств.

У женщин, занимающихся сексом хотя бы раз в неделю, регулярный менструальный цикл.

И, наконец, некоторые эксперты считают, что оргазм помогает справиться с инфекциями. Будем любить друг друга почаще, болеть будем реже.

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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:51:00 AM
 
Читатель:
Если не соответствую твоему уровню извини. Хотя это форум, а не лекции в университете, ты мне деньги не платишь поэтому претензии твои мягко говоря странные. И потом ну зачем читать если все это не ново, убей не понимаю. Если то что я пишу уже где-то написанно, то не сочти за труд и как человек образованный сделай небольшой cut and past сюда, а еще лучше своими словами.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:58:00 AM
 
Малыш первый отрывок классно написан мне понравилось.

Ты пишешь:
Thus, Hamlet what you are saying applies as I said to the kingdom of animals and humans of today...Until humans will learn to harmonize the reality of both worlds and understand that God is Oneness experiencing itself through itself in Many we will have wars.

Да мы двигаемся к единению, туда откуда пришли я согласен. Не концентрируйся на на настоящем и будущем посмотри на всю картину, на всю историю. Понятно ли тебе все-таки, что эволюции по другому НЕ МОГЛО быть ??? Если бы могло то было бы по другому. Мне все-таки кажется, что я вижу что-то новое не написанное никем до сих пор.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:16:00 AM
 
Thor,
Thank you so much for being supportive. The remarks of Severny and One of Four hurt, but I try to take them constructively, usually every criticism has at least some truth in it.
Hamlet: When you are taking societal progress, you are speaking about Western civilization’s improvement in the standards of living but our societies represent only a small portion of the overall world. In addition, I am still not convinced that even in our Western world people become better and more moral. Islam being religion on its way to extinction? That is an interesting theory and it has its supporters, but I do not think that is what will happen. Presently, worldwide, Islam is getting more converts than any other religion in the world. What Islam has on its side is demographics. In addition to new converts their present population is increasing because of their high amount of birth rates while population of Europe (Eastern and Western) as well as Canada, Australia is decreasing. Population in the USA is supposed to increase, but the increase will be largely attributed to new Arabic immigrants. Therefore, it is impossible to state that Islam will disappear
Malysh, I will digest what you are writing and get back to you ;-)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:20:00 AM
 
Thor спасибо за участие и поддержку Снегурочки. Но зачем употреблять слово гонишь в одном отрывке с таким высокостильным английским ?
Позволь цитату из тебя:

We, after creation or during evolution, have gained ability to live that made us able, for any reasons in order to survive, to create and perfect a system in which we do "evil" and "good" things for our indivdual benefits.

So "we have gained the ability" ? How could you gain the ability to do something you had no potential for ?
Now reagarding "for any reasons" - The reasons were initially created by the universe and created in such a way so we would not have any choice but to do evil in order to survive.

We were created with need for food without food being always available for us. Men were created with sexual desire without women always wanting to have sex. Different races appeared on earth without everybody having "built in" or "born with" kind of love for each other. Conflict was initially planned. All that was not a coincedence and nothing is our fault. We were programmed to do what we did and always had to face the consequences. WE ARE SLAVES OF THE EVOLUTION. Even today if you put a group of nice friendly canadians in the proper environment you will see evil before you know it. In this country we have a luxury to have this philosophical discussions without the need to fight with each other for basic things like food. However this is still a reality for many. You wouldn't think twice if life will put you in a difficult enough situation. Malush would not be Malush if she had to grow up in different reality. Go back to Russia and look at the girls pressed against the wall by modern russian hell. It is a war out there every single day.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:22:00 AM
 
Chto ti vidish?

Chto inache bit' ne mozhet...a ya govoru chto mozhet......mi iz khaosa dvizhemsya v uparyadochnost...to chto ti nazivayesh evolutsiyey eto tolko khaos kotoriy priobretayet formu, zakon, systemu.....

Da vsyo tak i dolzhno bit', no ono menyaetsa i budet menyatsa, chem shire budut otkrivatsa nashi galza....kogda ludi nachnut ponimat' zakon karmi...

Mezhdu prochim Kant po moymu v proshlom veke uzhe dakazal chto mir prikrasen i takoy kakoy dolzhen bit.
Tragediya v disgarmonii, khaose.....

Edited by - Ma/\bIIII on 9/25/2002 12:17:30 PM
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:22:00 AM
 
а топике про психологию накал страстей всё больше и больше раскалялся ...:)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:37:00 AM
 
Hamlet, no offence, but I got an impression that when you read somebody's piece, you see what you want to see in there. Thor stated that we were given an ability to LIVE and gradually built our own environment to survive (Thor, correct me if I am wrong). Your statement about having no ability when there is no potential did not have anything to do with what Mr. Thor said. What potential? You gain an ability to live when you are born….
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Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:37:00 AM
 
"Ezoterichskaya filosofiya utverzhdayet chto Satana ne est' lichnost, ravno kak i zlo ne est' samodovleyuschaya realnost, a lish otsutstviye dobra...Pryamoye poznaniye zla sovershenno nevozmozhno. Zlo mozhet suschestvovat tolko v dobre, kotoroye ono razrushayet, a kogda eto razrusheniye dostigaet svoyey visshey stepeni, togda vmeste s dobrom unichtozhayetsa i samo zlo."

"Soznaniye, sovmeschennoye s odnim tolko tezisom, ne tolko ne mozhet mislit antitesisa, no i soznavat samogo sebya. V nachale tezis est lish abstraktnaya vozmozhnost bitiya, tolko s utverzhdeniyem antitezisa eta vozmozhnost stanovitsa svobodnoy. Po mere evolutsii antitezisa postepenno raskrivayetsa i soderzhaniye tezisa".

You are right that everything was supposed to be this way, through evolution of Illusion/devil/separtness/disharmony/war we get to know what really is!!! Who we really are!!

Pro lutsifera/satanu: "Eto padeniye ne est' nechto sluchaynoye, kotoroye moglo bit', a moglo i ne bit', no est' nechto suschestvennoye, organicheski neobkhodimoye, i bez nego mir ne mog bi i nachat bit. Itak Lutsiferi i ego irarkhiya est antitezis Mikhaila i ego ierarkhii.
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