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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:08:23 PM
 
«я знаю одно. на снегу бОльшие машины легче контроллировать. неоднократно было проверенно.»

бугага да тем то оно и легче что можно нихуя даже не особо рыпаццо контролировать, под откос идёт как торпеда :)
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:11:11 PM
 
«если бы тебе тут сеичас хавок с пеной у рта доказывал, что квартиры на 5м этаже ни в коем случае нельзя брать»

не совсем понял сути, но если б он мне доказывал, что не стоит покупать новострой, если можно купить уже построенный в хорошем состоянии гораздо дешевле, или не стоит покупать дом у строителей таджиков-гастарбайтеров, а у легитимной итальянцкой строительной фирмы, то я б прислушалсо
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:11:13 PM
 
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ничего. я вообще слово можно и нелзья не упоминала.»


А ето тоже ты писала?

Я вовсе не из вредности. Мне, как гордому владельцу аккорда, непонятно, что нельзя сделать в аккорде.

Ты говоришь: в аккорде етого сделать нельзя... чего - етого?
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:11:33 PM
 
««a что ты имеешь в виду нельзя сделать в аккорде?»

ничего. я вообще слово можно и нелзья не упоминала.



хавок - ГГГГГ. ты еще раз начни байку про безопасность смарта и их суперскую раму которая при столкновении с бетонной стеной не калечить пассажиров.»


почему байка ? тачка соответствует всем евро параметрам по сэйфти + больше (дите м.бенс однако).

просто тебе бы стоило иногда отркыть учебнички по физике и авто.прому.

Body structure: the tridion safety cell

The most important consideration for a vehicle of this size is safety and in the development of the smart fortwo, occupant safety was given top priority from day one. In a collision, the tridion safety cell acts like a shield to protect both driver and passenger. The rigid steel frame, reinforced with high-strength solid steel at important stress points, absorbs much of the impact energy. The cell's transverse and lateral struts also transfer some impact energy to the crumple zones of the other vehicle involved in the collision.

Whereas the "hard shell" protects the occupant space, energy-absorbing safety features reduce the force applied on the occupants. These consist of short, but nonetheless extremely efficient deformation zones at the front and rear of the car.

In addition, even with the smart fortwo's compact design, the driver and passenger sit well back in the vehicle, distanced from the effects of a front impact.


smart restraint systems

In a severe impact, Emergency Tensioning Devices (ETD) automatically tighten the seat-belts in just a few milliseconds, ensuring that both the driver and passenger remain firmly secure in their seat. In this way, the occupants "take part" in the deceleration of the vehicle earlier and secondary impact forces are reduced. Then, in milliseconds, a belt force limiter controls the restraining action, reducing the risk of chest and shoulder injuries. In addition, the steering column collapses, absorbing energy and greatly increasing protection for the driver.


Sometimes small is safer

If another car hits a smart forwo cdi from the side, the compactness of the smart fortwo cdi coupé and cabriolet is a great advantage. Thanks to the ultra-short wheelbase, the other car will almost always hit a wheel with the suspension behind it, providing excellent protection against penetrating the occupant area.


Standard air bags

The smart fortwo cdi coupé and cabriolet also come equipped with standard full-size frontal air bags for both the driver and passenger as well as side airbags that provide protection against side impacts.


World class brakes

It goes without saying that the best way to avoid an accident is to stop before contact is made. The smart fortwo cdi has world-class stopping power, using a front disc/rear drum configuration with a standard electronic four channel anti-lock braking system (ABS), a system first developed by Mercedes-Benz in 1978. The braking system also incorporates Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist (BAS).


Electronic Stability Program

The DaimlerChrysler AG relationship has yielded many other benefits, not the least of which is the Mercedes-Benz-developed Electronic Stability Program (ESP), which is standard in all smart vehicles and offers dramatic handling advantages. ESP® enhances driver control and helps maintain directional stability in turns as well as when driving straight ahead, including driving over uneven surfaces and even patchy snow, ice or gravel. The straight-line traction control function is integrated into ESP, which uses a steering angle sensor, speed sensors at each wheel, sensors for lateral acceleration (or lateral g-force) and vehicle yaw (the vehicles rotation on a vertical axis), and computer logic to calculate the path being steered versus the car's actual path.

If there is a discernable difference between what the driver asks (through steering) and the vehicle's path, ESP applies selective braking (braking one wheel, front or rear, left or right) to put the car back onto the driver's intended path. ESP measures the tendency toward understeer (when the front resists steering changes causing "plowing") or oversteer (when the rear end "fishtails"). When it senses understeer, ESP increases brake pressure to the inside rear wheel, while in oversteering, it increases brake pressure to the outside front wheel. ESP is effective under acceleration, braking or coasting.

The smart fortwo cdi is the only micro-compact car to offer ESP or a similar and equally effective sytem as a standard feature.


Outstanding results in all crash tests

It sounds like a bold statement to say that smart's unique crash management system makes the smart fortwo one of the safest cars in the micro-compact car segment -- but it is true. The smart fortwo's superior passive safety has been confirmed by more than 50 crash tests carried out in accordance with the same standards employed by Mercedes-Benz, as well as several independent accident simulations. The crash tests included the following:

- frontal crash at 65 km/h against a deformable barrier;
- rear-end crash at 55 km/h;
- side impact at 50 km/h;
- car-to-car crash where a smart fortwo and a Mercedes-Benz E-Class (which is twice as heavy) collided at a speed of 50 km/h in an offset frontal collision.

In every test, the strength and rigidity designed into the tridion safety cell provided greater occupant safety than in other small cars and the deformation values measured were below all internationally recognized standards for all vehicles and in some cases the results for smart were significantly below these standards. This is particularly true in the case of a collision between the smart and a larger and heavier vehicle -- for example a collision with a Mercedes-Benz E-Class sedan.

The smart fortwo proved what it is capable of withstanding in the following tests:

In 1998, the German motoring magazine AutoBild carried out a crash test on five small cars using the Euro NCAP method travelling into a deformable barrier at 64 km/h with a maximum vehicle deceleration of 32.6 g, concluding that passengers travelling in a smart fortwo would be by far the safest. The passenger cell was virtually unscathed with the A-pillar being displaced by only 20 mm. By comparison, other cars included in the same test had A-pillar displacement of between 25 and 61 mm -- up to three times that of the smart. The smart fortwo achieved the best results in all relevant areas of the car and showed a clear overall advantage over the competitive cars involved, as indicated in the following chart.

Reduction in footwell size (%)
smart fortwo: 21
other cars: 26 to 39

Instrument panel penetration (mm)
smart fortwo: 13
other cars: 87 to 140

Pedal penetration (mm)
smart fortwo: 15
other cars: 85 to 186

Driver door opening force (Newtons)
smart fortwo: 226
other cars: >500 to *

Steering column displacement(mm)**
smart fortwo: -84 / 18
other cars: 59-91 / 45-118

* driver's door opened on impact
** horizontal / vertical

In this comparative test, even the windshield of the smart remained intact which might seem surprising given the short deformation zone of the car. This is due to the extraordinary strength of the tridion safety cell.


Other crash tests provide further testimony

In 1999, the Auto, Motor und Sport motoring magazine (edition 19/99) carried out a head-on crash test between a Mercedes-Benz S-Class and a smart fortwo, with both vehicles travelling at 50 km/h. They concluded that "Despite its small size, the smart offers its occupants great safety potential."

In June, 2003, the experts from DEKRA put a smart fortwo up against another small car in a head-on crash test, with both vehicles travelling at 50 km/h. The result was that while the passenger cell of the other car collapsed completely, the smart fortwo's rigid tridion safety cell remained intact. The smart fortwo driver, they concluded, would have survived with only minor injuries.


Crash tests also show low application of force on occupants

In a frontal impact, the extraordinary strength of the tridion safety cell inevitably leads to high vehicle deceleration, however, tests have shown that the forces transferred to the occupants is very much reduced. Dangerous load peaks are avoided by the integrated timing and interaction of the seat belts, airbags and deformable steering column. Low head injury criteria values (driver 306, passenger 387, versus limit value of 1000), which measure the strain on the brain, and totally uncritical head acceleration values of 51g for the driver and 50 g for the passenger (versus limit value of 80 g) clearly demonstrate this.

The load on the thorax is also comparatively low. The corresponding values in the smart fortwo are just 41 g / 35 g leading to chest compression of 19 mm for the driver and 30 mm for the passenger. In other cars, values of up to 44 mm were measured on the crash test dummy driver.

Energy absorbing padding in the foot area, knee protection on the cockpit cross member, special safety seats with integral seat belts with optimum belt guide, and the standard fast-triggering side airbags further reduce the risk of occupant injury.


Brake Assist

Another safety feature of the smart fortwo is the Brake Assist function (BAS). Research has shown that in an emergency situation, drivers tend not to brake hard enough or soon enough. Brake Assist senses panic stopping by the speed at which the driver depresses the brake pedal and automatically applies all available braking boost immediately. By helping to eliminate the delay caused by human nature, Brake Assist can potentially reduce stopping distances when it matters most.


Cornering Brake Control

The ability of ESP to act on individual wheel brakes is the basis for a further safety function of ABS - Cornering Brake Control. During extreme cornering, the engine load on the wheel which is located on the inside during cornering is reduced and the cornering brake control function ensures that this wheel does not lock. If the driver steps on the brake in such a situation, ESP senses that more braking power can be transferred from the other wheels than from the wheel with a reduced load. In this way, unnecessary activation of ABS and the attendant pulsing of the brake pedal are avoided.



«я знаю одно. на снегу бОльшие машины легче контроллировать. неоднократно было проверенно.»


БУГАГАГАГАГАГАГАГАГА . БУГАГАГАГАГАГА. тут уж и слов нет.
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Last edited by Havoc on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:14:00 PM
 
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:12:10 PM
 
««На G6 тока петухи катаюца у которых бабла нет.»

а ты питух с баблом? на чем катаешсо? на мохнатом моторолеере? му ахаха»


Я нармальный пацан, в нормальной тачке. Как вижу G6, рука сама тянется милостыню подать.
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:12:58 PM
 
У нас у друзей Аккорд. Тачка классная, мне нра. Г6, правда, больше внутри, он к нам когда сел в тачку ( мы её тогда рентанули), офигел, грит, как в вэне, места дофига.
На дороге аккорд разгоняется быстрее, вроде.... Хотя он, падла ехал по той полосе, где было пусто а перед нами вечно какие-то бабушки/дедушки ехали, не разогнацца :)

В Г6 понтиаке мне нра, , когда вынимаешь ключ и глушишь машину, музыка всё равно будет играть, до той поры, пока именно водитель не откроет свою дверь. Г6 тоже люблю :)

А вааще, я пока смотрю машины, которые бензина сосут мало, а то заибёшься за него платить :) Поэтому закрываю глаза на свою любовь к джипам :) Пока что...

Мы ярис брали, когда в Оттаву ехали. От Торонто до Оттавы использовали всего 6/8 бензина, поначалу ужасно непривычно было в маленькой машине сидеть :) Но экономная - тут против этого не попрёшь. :)


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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:14:46 PM
 
на самом деле моей первой тачкой был buick 87 или 88 года. а как говорится первая любофф остается на всю жизнь. ;)
Первой машиной у меня был Додж Ириз. Воспоминания такие что Додж это ваще не машина.
Last edited by Kashey on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:17:00 PM
 
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:15:24 PM
 
«Я нармальный пацан, в нормальной тачке. Как вижу G6, рука сама тянется милостыню подать.»

при таком раскладе ты должен ездить как минимум на новом S-klasse или чем-та из серии М штук за сто, чтоб воротить нос от тачил в раёне 20-30К, а иначе ты просто лицемерный песдабол бугага
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:19:55 PM
 
«У нас у друзей Аккорд. Тачка классная, мне нра. Г6, правда, больше внутри, он к нам когда сел в тачку ( мы её тогда рентанули), офигел, грит, как в вэне, места дофига.»

х.з. я сидел и в аккорде и в гранд аме (предыдущие поколения), так по-моему в аккорде места больше
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:23:24 PM
 
а Mazda 6 V6 со стандартом весьма кошерный автомобилчик я скажу :))
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:23:53 PM
 
««Я нармальный пацан, в нормальной тачке. Как вижу G6, рука сама тянется милостыню подать.»

при таком раскладе ты должен ездить как минимум на новом S-klasse или чем-та из серии М штук за сто, чтоб воротить нос от тачил в раёне 20-30К, а иначе ты просто лицемерный песдабол бугага»



песдаболЫ в G6 ездють и вместо того, что бы тихинко ночью и в туман ездить, они выставляют свой позор на всеобщее обозрение.
А про то, что этот крап не могут новой купить я вообще молчу.
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:24:07 PM
 
Так ты в Г6 2006 посиди :) Я никогда в гранд АМ-ах не сидела, не знаю :)
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Last edited by lady bastet on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:27:00 PM
 
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:26:32 PM
 
«а Mazda 6 V6 со стандартом весьма кошерный автомобилчик я скажу :))»

Все равно американка ;-)
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:27:14 PM
 
««У нас у друзей Аккорд. Тачка классная, мне нра. Г6, правда, больше внутри, он к нам когда сел в тачку ( мы её тогда рентанули), офигел, грит, как в вэне, места дофига.»

х.з. я сидел и в аккорде и в гранд аме (предыдущие поколения), так по-моему в аккорде места больше»


Кстати, спроси у Серого про размер, это он внутри сидел и сравнивал со своей Аккорд :)
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:27:57 PM
 
«««Я нармальный пацан, в нормальной тачке. Как вижу G6, рука сама тянется милостыню подать.»

при таком раскладе ты должен ездить как минимум на новом S-klasse или чем-та из серии М штук за сто, чтоб воротить нос от тачил в раёне 20-30К, а иначе ты просто лицемерный песдабол бугага»



песдаболЫ в G6 ездють и вместо того, что бы тихинко ночью и в туман ездить, они выставляют свой позор на всеобщее обозрение.
А про то, что этот крап не могут новой купить я вообще молчу.»


Нет какой нах S класс. По посту видно чел на Пегани Зонда рассикает. Ну или Порш ДжиТи.
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